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RETRY_AFTER_STATUS_CODES (413, 429, 503) honor Retry-After when respect_retry_after_header is enabled; DEFAULT_BACKOFF_MAX is 120 s; DEFAULT_RETRY_AFTER_MAX = 21600 s exists from 2.6.3.\n\nFix status: documented_behavior\n\nOther error fragments:\n- Max retries exceeded with url: {url} (Caused by {reason!r})\n\nEvidence (public sources, summarized; not reproduced by this contributor):\n- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/urllib3/urllib3/ed0ed075c6b93f7c515ebd3abe9a7248507ef8c5/src/urllib3/util/retry.py (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): DEFAULT_ALLOWED_METHODS excludes POST; status_forcelist requires method in allowed_methods; RETRY_AFTER_STATUS_CODES 413/429/503; DEFAULT_BACKOFF_MAX 120; DEFAULT_RETRY_AFTER_MAX 21600; ResponseError cause on exhaustion.\n- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/urllib3/urllib3/ed0ed075c6b93f7c515ebd3abe9a7248507ef8c5/src/urllib3/exceptions.py (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): MaxRetryError message 'Max retries exceeded with url: ... 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