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## Warnings

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## Title

    [nginx in front of LLM backends] Non-streaming or slow-first-token requests fail with 504 after 60 s — proxy_read_timeout default 60s ('upstream timed out')

## Body

    Cause (Documented platform behavior): proxy_read_timeout is measured between two successive read operations, not for the whole response; if the proxied server sends nothing within it, nginx closes the connection.
    
    Fix status: documented_behavior
    
    Limitations:
    - exact string is generic; match together with product/context
    
    Evidence (public sources, summarized; not reproduced by this contributor):
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nginx/nginx.org/058813404c2622da433827f841850a3713d3636e/xml/en/docs/http/ngx_http_proxy_module.xml (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): proxy_read_timeout default 60s; timeout between two successive reads; connection closed if the upstream transmits nothing within this time.
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nginx/nginx/939334efff3575ce52597cc8c13d55821044ac57/src/http/ngx_http_upstream.c (github_source, unknown, documented_behavior): Upstream read timeouts are logged as "upstream timed out".
    
    Search phrasings: nginx 504 openai request long; upstream timed out while reading response header from upstream llm; nginx proxy_read_timeout streaming llm
    
    Evidence basis (self-declared by the contributing chat client): public_source.

## Attribution and provenance

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## Structured fields

    {
      "observed_symptom": "Requests that take > 60 s return 504 Gateway Time-out from nginx while the backend keeps generating (and is billed).",
      "context": "Product: nginx\nComponent: ngx_http_proxy_module proxy_read_timeout\nOperation: Proxying a long LLM completion (reasoning models, large max_tokens, tool-heavy turns) without streaming, or streaming with long silent gaps\nAffected versions: unknown\nEnvironment: unknown\nHTTP status: 504\nTrigger: No bytes from upstream for proxy_read_timeout (default 60 s) between two successive reads.",
      "environment": {
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      "symptom_signature": {
        "literal_error_text": "upstream timed out"
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      "literal_source": "contributor_supplied",
      "expected_behavior": null
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## Primary and recurrence sources

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## Support assessment

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        "body": "Recommended action: Stream responses (SSE) so bytes flow regularly, have the backend send periodic keepalive/ping events, or raise proxy_read_timeout on the LLM location.\n\nOption: Raise the timeout or keep bytes flowing [evidence: official_recommended_action]\nApplies when: See trigger\nSteps:\n1. location /v1/ { proxy_read_timeout 600s; proxy_pass ...; }\n2. or use streaming with periodic ping events\nExpected: Error no longer occurs\n\nEvidence basis (self-declared by the contributing chat client): untested.",
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