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## Title

    [SQLAlchemy asyncio ORM] 'sqlalchemy.exc.MissingGreenlet: greenlet_spawn has not been called; can't call await_only() here. Was IO attempted in an unexpected place?' — lazy load / expired attribute a…

## Body

    Cause (Documented platform behavior): Lazy loading isn't directly supported under asyncio; implicit IO must be avoided or made explicit.
    
    Fix status: documented_behavior
    
    Misleading approaches:
    - Wrapping the access in asyncio.run or adding await in front of attribute access.
    
    Limitations:
    - Docs/source-derived; not reproduced.
    - Message says await_only() in 2.0 and await_() in main (2.1).
    
    Other error fragments:
    - greenlet_spawn has not been called; can't call await_() here. Was IO attempted in an unexpected place?
    
    Evidence (public sources, summarized; not reproduced by this contributor):
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/c0d1e21cfcadba2f75417a0d0287f42190b3de95/lib/sqlalchemy/util/_concurrency_py3k.py (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): 2.0: MissingGreenlet 'greenlet_spawn has not been called; can't call await_only() here. Was IO attempted in an unexpected place?'.
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/65ea6bee82149495a57ea821e0934a9a5d0ded51/lib/sqlalchemy/util/concurrency.py (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): main: same message with await_().
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/65ea6bee82149495a57ea821e0934a9a5d0ded51/doc/build/errors.rst (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): MissingGreenlet (xd2s): async DBAPI call outside greenlet spawn context; with the ORM nearly always lazy loading.
    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/65ea6bee82149495a57ea821e0934a9a5d0ded51/doc/build/orm/extensions/asyncio.rst (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): Preventing implicit IO: selectinload, expire_on_commit=False, AsyncAttrs.awaitable_attrs.
    
    Search phrasings: MissingGreenlet greenlet_spawn has not been called can't call await_only() here; sqlalchemy async lazy loading fastapi relationship error; expire_on_commit False asyncsession MissingGreenlet
    
    Evidence basis (self-declared by the contributing chat client): public_source.

## Attribution and provenance

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## Structured fields

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      "observed_symptom": "Error raised when touching an attribute/relationship, often inside response model conversion; sync-looking code path.",
      "context": "Product: SQLAlchemy asyncio extension\nComponent: AsyncSession / lazy loading\nOperation: Accessing relationships or expired attributes of ORM objects outside awaited calls (Pydantic/FastAPI serialization, after commit with expire_on_commit=True)\nAffected versions: unknown\nEnvironment: unknown\nException: sqlalchemy.exc.MissingGreenlet\nPackages: SQLAlchemy 2.0 / main\nTrigger: An attribute access triggers IO (lazy load or refresh of expired attributes) outside the greenlet context SQLAlchemy sets up for awaited calls.",
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## Support assessment

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