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onIdleTimeout sends a local reply 'stream timeout' with 504 Gateway Timeout if the downstream request was fully received, else 408 Request Timeout, or resets the stream if upstream headers were already sent.\n\nFix status: documented_behavior\n\nMisleading approaches:\n- Only raising the route timeout — the 5-minute idle timer still fires for silent upstreams.\n\nLimitations:\n- Istio/Gateway implementations may override Envoy defaults; check effective config.\n\nEvidence (public sources, summarized; not reproduced by this contributor):\n- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/envoyproxy/envoy/ac92dd59b2ac663c08249e24fbf1a74ca13e6def/api/envoy/extensions/filters/network/http_connection_manager/v3/http_connection_manager.proto (official_docs, unknown, documented_behavior): stream_idle_timeout defaults to 5 minutes; fires 408 if no upstream response header received, otherwise stream reset; 0 disables.\n- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/envoyproxy/envoy/ac92dd59b2ac663c08249e24fbf1a74ca13e6def/source/common/http/conn_manager_impl.cc (github_source, unknown, documented_behavior): onIdleTimeout sets StreamIdleTimeout flag and sends local reply 'stream timeout' with maybeRequestTimeoutCode.\n- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/envoyproxy/envoy/ac92dd59b2ac663c08249e24fbf1a74ca13e6def/source/common/http/utility.cc (github_source, unknown, documented_behavior): maybeRequestTimeoutCode returns 504 GatewayTimeout when the downstream request was complete, else 408.\n\nSearch phrasings: envoy stream timeout 5 minutes LLM; 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