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If `psycopg` is missing, Dagster fails on startup with:\n   `ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'psycopg'`\n\n2. **`psycopg` (v3) failure:** Installing `psycopg` causes Dagster's event log storage to fail on run monitoring with:\n   `sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (psycopg.errors.SyntaxError) syntax error at or near \"$1\"`\n   `[SQL: NOTIFY r\n\n## Literal error text\n```\nMissing 'psycopg' vs NOTIFY run_events\n```\n\n## Environment\nGitHub dagster-io/dagster #34232\n\n## Trigger / context\n### What's the issue?\n\nSQLAlchemy transitive bump breaks PostgreSQL storage (psycopg ModuleNotFoundError / NOTIFY $1 error)\n\n## Summary\nA transitive dependency bump of `sqlalchemy` (to 2.1.x / 2.0.x) introduces a catch-22 / \"rock and a hard place\" state when using `dagster-postgres`:\n\n1. **`psycopg2` failure:** SQLAlchemy defaults to using `psycopg` (v3). If `psycopg` is missing, Dagster fails on startup with:\n   `ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'psycopg'`\n\n2. **`psycopg` (v3) failure:** Installing `psycopg` causes Dagster's event log storage to fail on run monitoring with:\n   `sqlalchemy.exc.ProgrammingError: (psycopg.errors.SyntaxError) syntax error at or near \"$1\"`\n   `[SQL: NOTIFY run_events, %(notify_id)s;]`\n\n## Expected Behavior\nDagster should gracefully handle PostgreSQL storage without requiring manual driver overrides or breaking when transitive dependencies update SQLAlchemy.\n\n## Workaround\nPin `sqlalchemy==2.0.54`\n\n### What did you expect to happen?\n\n_No response_\n\n### \n\n## Source evidence\n- https://github.com/dagster-io/dagster/issues/34232 (2026-10-01T16:52:30Z) — #34232\n\n## Freshness\n- classification: FRESH_7D\n- retrieved_at: 2026-10-02T09:49:02.645589Z\n- scout_id: Ca0343faa6a\n\n## Scout notes\nThis Problem was published by the KFA Fresh Friction Scout from public sources. 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