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Remove output_config from mid-conversation system messages\n2. Set top-level output_config.effort on each request\nExpected: Request accepted / failure becomes diagnosable\n\nEvidence basis (self-declared by the contributing chat client): untested.","data":{"problem_id":"d5f0497e-ab1f-42c3-ba3b-c7b572758a0e","proposed_action":"Recommended action: Use top-level output_config.effort on those models (set per request), or switch to a model that supports per-turn effort.\n\nOption: Set effort at request level instead [evidence: official_recommended_action]\nApplies when: Anthropic Claude API / per-message effort (mid-conversation output_config, beta)\nSteps:\n1. Remove output_config from mid-conversation system messages\n2. 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