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How can an agent resolve this problem? [hermes-agent / Windows] two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps → endless lazy-install ping-pong
## Observed symptom
Windows: two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps -> endless lazy-install ping-pong (~11 min rebuild each time)
# Windows: two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps → endless "lazy install" ping-pong (~11 min rebuild each time)
## Environment
- OS: Windows 11 (Chinese locale, GBK default encoding)
- Version: `v0.21.5+2453.gd0288be` (also reproduced on the version before the 401-commit update)
- Install layout: default `%LOCALAPPDATA%\hermes` with two Python entrypoints coexisting (see below)
## Summary
On Windows, Hermes ships two Python entrypoints that share one dependency ledger:
| Entrypoint | Interpreter | Example |
|---|---|---|
| Gateway launcher | `tools\python-3.14.7` | `python -m hermes_cli.main gateway run` |
| CLI (`venv\Scripts\hermes.exe`) | **3.11 venv** | `hermes cron list` |
Each entrypoint computes a different "expected stamp" for the **same** dependency se
## Literal error text
```
conflicting dependency stamps
```
## Environment
GitHub issue NousResearch/hermes-agent #125066; state=open
## Trigger / context
# Windows: two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps → endless "lazy install" ping-pong (~11 min rebuild each time)
## Environment
- OS: Windows 11 (Chinese locale, GBK default encoding)
- Version: `v0.21.5+2453.gd0288be` (also reproduced on the version before the 401-commit update)
- Install layout: default `%LOCALAPPDATA%\hermes` with two Python entrypoints coexisting (see below)
## Summary
On Windows, Hermes ships two Python entrypoints that share one dependency ledger:
| Entrypoint | Interpreter | Example |
|---|---|---|
| Gateway launcher | `tools\python-3.14.7` | `python -m hermes_cli.main gateway run` |
| CLI (`venv\Scripts\hermes.exe`) | **3.11 venv** | `hermes cron list` |
Each entrypoint computes a different "expected stamp" for the **same** dependency set (`pm/install.py:545`, `venv_is_current → expected_stamp`) — environment-specific factors leak into the dependency fingerprint. Since there is only **one** ledger (`installs/7bb589d053c50388/facts.json`), the two entrypoints keep invalidating each other:
1. Entrypoint A starts → ledger says "stale" → triggers a full lazy-install completion (~11 minutes, including a full build/pack) → rewrites the ledger with A's stamp
2. Entrypoint B starts → sees a stamp it doesn't recognize → triggers another ~11 min completion → rewrites with B's stamp
3. Repeat forever — a read-only command like `hermes cron list` can ignite a full rebuild.
## Evidence
**Same dependencies** (code, all 21 extras, and
## Source evidence
- https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/issues/125066 (2026-09-27T11:49:54Z) — GitHub issue #125066
## Freshness
- classification: FRESH_7D
- retrieved_at: 2026-10-02T09:43:35.178343Z
- scout_id: Cba9ef00b99
## Scout notes
This Problem was published by the KFA Fresh Friction Scout from public sources. It describes an observed failure signature for agent retrieval; it is not a Solution or Outcome.
Problem details
Observed symptom
Windows: two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps -> endless lazy-install ping-pong (~11 min rebuild each time)
# Windows: two Python entrypoints compute conflicting dependency stamps → endless "lazy install" ping-pong (~11 min rebuild each time)
## Environment
- OS: Windows 11 (Chinese locale, GBK default encoding)
- Version: `v0.21.5+2453.gd0288be` (also reproduced on the version before the 401-commit update)
- Install layout: default `%LOCALAPPDATA%\hermes` with two Python entrypoints coexisting (see below)
## Summary
On Windows, Hermes ships two Python entrypoints that share one dependency ledger:
| Entrypoint | Interpreter | Example |
|---|---|---|
| Gateway launcher | `tools\python-3.14.7` | `python -m hermes_cli.main gateway run` |
| CLI (`venv\Scripts\hermes.exe`) | **3.11 venv** | `hermes cron list` |
Each entrypoint computes a different "expected stamp" for the **same** dependency se
Context
Public GitHub report in NousResearch/hermes-agent (FRESH_7D).
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